diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/index.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/index.ts
index c6c80aad8a..3971f8de12 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/index.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/index.ts
@@ -1 +1,29 @@
-export * from "./updates"
+import { asyncEventQueue, init as initQueue } from "../events/asyncEvents"
+import {
+  ProcessorMap,
+  default as DocumentUpdateProcessor,
+} from "../events/processors/async/DocumentUpdateProcessor"
+
+let processingPromise: Promise<void>
+let documentProcessor: DocumentUpdateProcessor
+
+export function init(processors: ProcessorMap) {
+  if (!asyncEventQueue) {
+    initQueue()
+  }
+  if (!documentProcessor) {
+    documentProcessor = new DocumentUpdateProcessor(processors)
+  }
+  // if not processing in this instance, kick it off
+  if (!processingPromise) {
+    processingPromise = asyncEventQueue.process(async job => {
+      const { event, identity, properties, timestamp } = job.data
+      await documentProcessor.processEvent(
+        event,
+        identity,
+        properties,
+        timestamp
+      )
+    })
+  }
+}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/updates.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/updates.ts
deleted file mode 100644
index 478d29f4eb..0000000000
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/docUpdates/updates.ts
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,62 +0,0 @@
-import { createQueue, JobQueue } from "../queue"
-import BullQueue from "bull"
-import { DocumentType, SEPARATOR } from "../constants"
-import { doInContext, doInTenant } from "../context"
-
-type DocUpdateEvent = {
-  id: string
-  tenantId: string
-  appId?: string
-}
-
-type Processor = (update: DocUpdateEvent) => Promise<void>
-
-const processors: { types: DocumentType[]; processor: Processor }[] = []
-let queue: BullQueue.Queue
-let processingPromise: Promise<void>
-
-export function init() {
-  queue = createQueue<DocUpdateEvent>(JobQueue.DOC_UPDATE)
-}
-
-export async function shutdown() {
-  if (queue) {
-    await queue.close()
-  }
-}
-
-export async function update(opts: DocUpdateEvent) {
-  if (!queue) {
-    init()
-  }
-  await queue.add(opts)
-}
-
-async function handleJob(data: DocUpdateEvent) {
-  for (let { types, processor } of processors) {
-    if (types.find(type => data.id.startsWith(`${type}${SEPARATOR}`))) {
-      const context = data.appId || data.tenantId
-      const contextFn = data.appId ? doInContext : doInTenant
-      await contextFn(context, async () => {
-        await processor(data)
-      })
-    }
-  }
-}
-
-export async function process(types: DocumentType[], processor: Processor) {
-  if (!queue) {
-    init()
-  }
-  // add to processor list
-  processors.push({
-    types,
-    processor,
-  })
-  // if not processing in this instance, kick it off
-  if (!processingPromise) {
-    processingPromise = queue.process(async job => {
-      await handleJob(job.data)
-    })
-  }
-}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/index.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/index.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..65f7f8f58b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/index.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+export * from "./queue"
+export * from "./publisher"
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/publisher.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/publisher.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..4e44c4ddc5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/publisher.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+import { AsyncEvents } from "@budibase/types"
+import { EventPayload, asyncEventQueue, init } from "./queue"
+
+export async function publishAsyncEvent(payload: EventPayload) {
+  if (!asyncEventQueue) {
+    init()
+  }
+  const { event, identity } = payload
+  if (AsyncEvents.indexOf(event) !== -1 && identity.tenantId) {
+    await asyncEventQueue.add(payload)
+  }
+}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/queue.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/queue.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..c0b9b368b8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/asyncEvents/queue.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
+import BullQueue from "bull"
+import { createQueue, JobQueue } from "../../queue"
+import { Event, Identity } from "@budibase/types"
+
+export interface EventPayload {
+  event: Event
+  identity: Identity
+  properties: any
+  timestamp?: string | number
+}
+
+export let asyncEventQueue: BullQueue.Queue
+
+export function init() {
+  asyncEventQueue = createQueue<EventPayload>(JobQueue.DOC_UPDATE)
+}
+
+export async function shutdown() {
+  if (asyncEventQueue) {
+    await asyncEventQueue.close()
+  }
+}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/documentId.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/documentId.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..887e56f07b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/documentId.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
+import {
+  Event,
+  UserCreatedEvent,
+  UserUpdatedEvent,
+  UserDeletedEvent,
+  UserPermissionAssignedEvent,
+  UserPermissionRemovedEvent,
+  GroupCreatedEvent,
+  GroupUpdatedEvent,
+  GroupDeletedEvent,
+  GroupUsersAddedEvent,
+  GroupUsersDeletedEvent,
+  GroupPermissionsEditedEvent,
+} from "@budibase/types"
+
+const getEventProperties: Record<
+  string,
+  (properties: any) => string | undefined
+> = {
+  [Event.USER_CREATED]: (properties: UserCreatedEvent) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_UPDATED]: (properties: UserUpdatedEvent) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_DELETED]: (properties: UserDeletedEvent) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_PERMISSION_ADMIN_ASSIGNED]: (
+    properties: UserPermissionAssignedEvent
+  ) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_PERMISSION_ADMIN_REMOVED]: (
+    properties: UserPermissionRemovedEvent
+  ) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_PERMISSION_BUILDER_ASSIGNED]: (
+    properties: UserPermissionAssignedEvent
+  ) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_PERMISSION_BUILDER_REMOVED]: (
+    properties: UserPermissionRemovedEvent
+  ) => properties.userId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_CREATED]: (properties: GroupCreatedEvent) =>
+    properties.groupId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_UPDATED]: (properties: GroupUpdatedEvent) =>
+    properties.groupId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_DELETED]: (properties: GroupDeletedEvent) =>
+    properties.groupId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_USERS_ADDED]: (properties: GroupUsersAddedEvent) =>
+    properties.groupId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_USERS_REMOVED]: (properties: GroupUsersDeletedEvent) =>
+    properties.groupId,
+  [Event.USER_GROUP_PERMISSIONS_EDITED]: (
+    properties: GroupPermissionsEditedEvent
+  ) => properties.groupId,
+}
+
+export function getDocumentId(event: Event, properties: any) {
+  const extractor = getEventProperties[event]
+  if (!extractor) {
+    throw new Error("Event does not have a method of document ID extraction")
+  }
+  return extractor(properties)
+}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/events.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/events.ts
index c2f7cf66ec..12cef21dff 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/events.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/events.ts
@@ -1,7 +1,8 @@
-import { Event, AuditedEventFriendlyName } from "@budibase/types"
+import { Event } from "@budibase/types"
 import { processors } from "./processors"
 import identification from "./identification"
 import * as backfill from "./backfill"
+import { publishAsyncEvent } from "./asyncEvents"
 
 export const publishEvent = async (
   event: Event,
@@ -12,6 +13,15 @@ export const publishEvent = async (
   const identity = await identification.getCurrentIdentity()
 
   const backfilling = await backfill.isBackfillingEvent(event)
+
+  // send off async events if required
+  await publishAsyncEvent({
+    event,
+    identity,
+    properties,
+    timestamp,
+  })
+
   // no backfill - send the event and exit
   if (!backfilling) {
     await processors.processEvent(event, identity, properties, timestamp)
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/index.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/index.ts
index d0d59a5b22..a238d72bac 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/index.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/index.ts
@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ export * as backfillCache from "./backfill"
 
 import { processors } from "./processors"
 
+export function initAsyncEvents() {}
+
 export const shutdown = () => {
   processors.shutdown()
   console.log("Events shutdown")
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts
deleted file mode 100644
index 496da7e923..0000000000
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,42 +0,0 @@
-import { Event, Identity, Group, DocumentUpdateEvents } from "@budibase/types"
-import { EventProcessor } from "./types"
-import * as docUpdates from "../../docUpdates"
-import { getTenantId } from "../../context"
-
-export default class DocumentUpdateProcessor implements EventProcessor {
-  async processEvent(
-    event: Event,
-    identity: Identity,
-    properties: any,
-    timestamp?: string
-  ): Promise<void> {
-    // only user and group IDs supported right now - no app documents yet
-    if (DocumentUpdateEvents.indexOf(event) !== -1 && identity.tenantId) {
-      await docUpdates.update({
-        id: this.getId(properties),
-        tenantId: getTenantId(),
-      })
-    }
-  }
-
-  getId(properties: any) {
-    let possibleProps = ["groupId", "userId"]
-    for (let prop of possibleProps) {
-      if (properties[prop]) {
-        return properties[prop]
-      }
-    }
-  }
-
-  async identify(identity: Identity, timestamp?: string | number) {
-    // no-op
-  }
-
-  async identifyGroup(group: Group, timestamp?: string | number) {
-    // no-op
-  }
-
-  shutdown(): void {
-    docUpdates.shutdown()
-  }
-}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/Processors.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/Processors.ts
index 4baedd909f..72de945d44 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/Processors.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/Processors.ts
@@ -25,7 +25,9 @@ export default class Processor implements EventProcessor {
     timestamp?: string | number
   ): Promise<void> {
     for (const eventProcessor of this.processors) {
-      await eventProcessor.identify(identity, timestamp)
+      if (eventProcessor.identify) {
+        await eventProcessor.identify(identity, timestamp)
+      }
     }
   }
 
@@ -34,13 +36,17 @@ export default class Processor implements EventProcessor {
     timestamp?: string | number
   ): Promise<void> {
     for (const eventProcessor of this.processors) {
-      await eventProcessor.identifyGroup(identity, timestamp)
+      if (eventProcessor.identifyGroup) {
+        await eventProcessor.identifyGroup(identity, timestamp)
+      }
     }
   }
 
   shutdown() {
     for (const eventProcessor of this.processors) {
-      eventProcessor.shutdown()
+      if (eventProcessor.shutdown) {
+        eventProcessor.shutdown()
+      }
     }
   }
 }
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/async/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/async/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..a65152cc70
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/async/DocumentUpdateProcessor.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,44 @@
+import { EventProcessor } from "../types"
+import { Event, Identity, DocUpdateEvent } from "@budibase/types"
+import { DocumentType, SEPARATOR } from "../../../constants"
+import { doInTenant } from "../../../context"
+import { getDocumentId } from "../../documentId"
+import { shutdown } from "../../asyncEvents"
+
+export type Processor = (update: DocUpdateEvent) => Promise<void>
+export type ProcessorMap = { types: DocumentType[]; processor: Processor }[]
+
+export default class DocumentUpdateProcessor implements EventProcessor {
+  processors: ProcessorMap = []
+
+  constructor(processors: ProcessorMap) {
+    this.processors = processors
+  }
+
+  async processEvent(
+    event: Event,
+    identity: Identity,
+    properties: any,
+    timestamp?: string | number
+  ) {
+    const tenantId = identity.tenantId
+    const docId = getDocumentId(event, properties)
+    if (!tenantId || !docId) {
+      return
+    }
+    for (let { types, processor } of this.processors) {
+      if (types.find(type => docId.startsWith(`${type}${SEPARATOR}`))) {
+        await doInTenant(tenantId, async () => {
+          await processor({
+            id: docId,
+            tenantId,
+          })
+        })
+      }
+    }
+  }
+
+  shutdown() {
+    return shutdown()
+  }
+}
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/index.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/index.ts
index 3582838d31..6646764e47 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/index.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/index.ts
@@ -1,14 +1,12 @@
 import AnalyticsProcessor from "./AnalyticsProcessor"
 import LoggingProcessor from "./LoggingProcessor"
 import AuditLogsProcessor from "./AuditLogsProcessor"
-import DocumentUpdateProcessor from "./DocumentUpdateProcessor"
 import Processors from "./Processors"
 import { AuditLogFn } from "@budibase/types"
 
 export const analyticsProcessor = new AnalyticsProcessor()
 const loggingProcessor = new LoggingProcessor()
 const auditLogsProcessor = new AuditLogsProcessor()
-const documentUpdateProcessor = new DocumentUpdateProcessor()
 
 export function init(auditingFn: AuditLogFn) {
   return AuditLogsProcessor.init(auditingFn)
@@ -18,5 +16,4 @@ export const processors = new Processors([
   analyticsProcessor,
   loggingProcessor,
   auditLogsProcessor,
-  documentUpdateProcessor,
 ])
diff --git a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/types.ts b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/types.ts
index f4066fe248..33db6d8932 100644
--- a/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/types.ts
+++ b/packages/backend-core/src/events/processors/types.ts
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ export interface EventProcessor {
     properties: any,
     timestamp?: string | number
   ): Promise<void>
-  identify(identity: Identity, timestamp?: string | number): Promise<void>
-  identifyGroup(group: Group, timestamp?: string | number): Promise<void>
-  shutdown(): void
+  identify?(identity: Identity, timestamp?: string | number): Promise<void>
+  identifyGroup?(group: Group, timestamp?: string | number): Promise<void>
+  shutdown?(): void
 }
diff --git a/packages/server/src/events/docUpdates.ts b/packages/server/src/events/docUpdates.ts
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..fcd90f64c4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/server/src/events/docUpdates.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,42 @@
+import { constants, docUpdates, logging } from "@budibase/backend-core"
+import { sdk as proSdk } from "@budibase/pro"
+import { DocUpdateEvent } from "@budibase/types"
+import { syncUsersToAllApps } from "../sdk/app/applications/sync"
+
+type UpdateCallback = (docId: string) => void
+
+function userGroupUpdates(updateCb?: UpdateCallback) {
+  const types = [constants.DocumentType.USER, constants.DocumentType.GROUP]
+  const processor = async (update: DocUpdateEvent) => {
+    try {
+      const docId = update.id
+      const isGroup = docId.startsWith(constants.DocumentType.GROUP)
+      let userIds: string[]
+      if (isGroup) {
+        const group = await proSdk.groups.get(docId)
+        userIds = group.users?.map(user => user._id) || []
+      } else {
+        userIds = [docId]
+      }
+      if (userIds.length > 0) {
+        await syncUsersToAllApps(userIds)
+      }
+      if (updateCb) {
+        updateCb(docId)
+      }
+    } catch (err: any) {
+      // if something not found - no changes to perform
+      if (err?.status === 404) {
+        return
+      } else {
+        logging.logAlert("Failed to perform user/group app sync", err)
+      }
+    }
+  }
+  return { types, processor }
+}
+
+export function init(updateCb?: UpdateCallback) {
+  const processors = [userGroupUpdates(updateCb)]
+  docUpdates.init(processors)
+}
diff --git a/packages/server/src/events/index.ts b/packages/server/src/events/index.ts
index fad7bcaa9a..23c3f3e512 100644
--- a/packages/server/src/events/index.ts
+++ b/packages/server/src/events/index.ts
@@ -2,4 +2,5 @@ import BudibaseEmitter from "./BudibaseEmitter"
 
 const emitter = new BudibaseEmitter()
 
+export { init } from "./docUpdates"
 export default emitter
diff --git a/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/sync.ts b/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/sync.ts
index 66fd5d2d59..d0a1d78428 100644
--- a/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/sync.ts
+++ b/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/sync.ts
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ async function syncUsersToApp(
   })
 }
 
-async function syncUsersToAllApps(userIds: string[]) {
+export async function syncUsersToAllApps(userIds: string[]) {
   // list of users, if one has been deleted it will be undefined in array
   const users = (await getGlobalUsers(userIds, {
     noProcessing: true,
@@ -113,36 +113,6 @@ async function syncUsersToAllApps(userIds: string[]) {
   }
 }
 
-export function initUserGroupSync(updateCb?: (docId: string) => void) {
-  const types = [constants.DocumentType.USER, constants.DocumentType.GROUP]
-  docUpdates.process(types, async update => {
-    try {
-      const docId = update.id
-      const isGroup = docId.startsWith(constants.DocumentType.GROUP)
-      let userIds: string[]
-      if (isGroup) {
-        const group = await proSdk.groups.get(docId)
-        userIds = group.users?.map(user => user._id) || []
-      } else {
-        userIds = [docId]
-      }
-      if (userIds.length > 0) {
-        await syncUsersToAllApps(userIds)
-      }
-      if (updateCb) {
-        updateCb(docId)
-      }
-    } catch (err: any) {
-      // if something not found - no changes to perform
-      if (err?.status === 404) {
-        return
-      } else {
-        logging.logAlert("Failed to perform user/group app sync", err)
-      }
-    }
-  })
-}
-
 export async function syncApp(
   appId: string,
   opts?: { automationOnly?: boolean }
diff --git a/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/tests/sync.spec.ts b/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/tests/sync.spec.ts
index 90493c541d..3b412a7fa7 100644
--- a/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/tests/sync.spec.ts
+++ b/packages/server/src/sdk/app/applications/tests/sync.spec.ts
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import TestConfiguration from "../../../../tests/utilities/TestConfiguration"
 import { events, context, roles, constants } from "@budibase/backend-core"
-import { initUserGroupSync } from "../sync"
+import { init } from "../../../../events"
 import { rawUserMetadata } from "../../../users/utils"
 import EventEmitter from "events"
 import { UserGroup, UserMetadata, UserRoles, User } from "@budibase/types"
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ function waitForUpdate(opts: { group?: boolean }) {
 
 beforeAll(async () => {
   app = await config.init("syncApp")
-  initUserGroupSync(updateCb)
+  init(updateCb)
 })
 
 async function createUser(email: string, roles: UserRoles, builder?: boolean) {
diff --git a/packages/server/src/startup.ts b/packages/server/src/startup.ts
index 80cdc3c792..2fd59b7a8e 100644
--- a/packages/server/src/startup.ts
+++ b/packages/server/src/startup.ts
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ import fs from "fs"
 import { watch } from "./watch"
 import * as automations from "./automations"
 import * as fileSystem from "./utilities/fileSystem"
-import eventEmitter from "./events"
+import { default as eventEmitter, init as eventInit } from "./events"
 import * as migrations from "./migrations"
 import * as bullboard from "./automations/bullboard"
 import * as pro from "@budibase/pro"
@@ -63,7 +63,7 @@ export async function startup(app?: any, server?: any) {
   eventEmitter.emitPort(env.PORT)
   fileSystem.init()
   await redis.init()
-  sdk.applications.initUserGroupSync()
+  eventInit()
 
   // run migrations on startup if not done via http
   // not recommended in a clustered environment
diff --git a/packages/types/src/sdk/events/event.ts b/packages/types/src/sdk/events/event.ts
index 92965fa533..0b2ed3ce7c 100644
--- a/packages/types/src/sdk/events/event.ts
+++ b/packages/types/src/sdk/events/event.ts
@@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ export enum Event {
   AUDIT_LOGS_DOWNLOADED = "audit_log:downloaded",
 }
 
-export const DocumentUpdateEvents: Event[] = [
+export const AsyncEvents: Event[] = [
   Event.USER_CREATED,
   Event.USER_UPDATED,
   Event.USER_DELETED,
@@ -399,3 +399,9 @@ export interface BaseEvent {
 }
 
 export type TableExportFormat = "json" | "csv"
+
+export type DocUpdateEvent = {
+  id: string
+  tenantId: string
+  appId?: string
+}